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Club statement   Message 47440Wed, 12 September 2018 23:21  Go to next message

Something doesn't quite add up here, and I'm not talking about the score!

Official Club statement at 20.10 says Supporters will notice there is no goalkeeper listed on the team sheet for tonight's match.

The Official print out from the Lewes, as photographed on Twitter, yes it does have it's uses!!, clearly shows Stroud as Goalkeeper for Farnborough!!

Not sure quite when that Team sheet was printed by Lewes, but there is certainly some discrepancy here, or were Boro trying to keep it secret squirrel from Lewes!!

Whatever, it's pretty messy and appears a bit 'Sunday League' to say the least!!

Lenny Pidgely was one of our 'Star' signings at the start of the season, and gave great hope to all of us. It would now appear that he has a 'long standing' medical condition, that no one at the Club was aware of???

I sincerely hope it wasn't something that he was trying to hide from us, for if he was, it let down everyone at the Club badly!!
Likewise, if it was known, and covered up, then further questions need to be asked!!

The Club worked long and hard to get Stroud, with clearance issues from abroad, and the very least, I would assume, is that we would ensure that he is available for midweek matches, unless of course this is a one off, which unfortunately happens, and he is forgiven!!

If, however, he isn't available midweek then, again questions need to be asked!!

I'm sure the excuses will come pouring out in the next few days, but I'm afraid they are getting less and less believable by the season.

It's only six grand we missed out on though!!! Never mind.



Lenny, if you read this I wish you well, and thanks for your time here!









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Re: Club statement   Message 47443 is a reply to message 47440Wed, 12 September 2018 23:31  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Not sure how we could ever "ensure" a keeper is available midweek when they're semi-pro. Carrot and stick, sure, but they aren't guarantees and it'd be hard to expect a semi-pro player to put club before job at all times. Especially if they're theoretically second choice.

Sounds like Pidgeley left us in the lurch, but without knowing exactly what was said and claimed and hearing from both sides I'll pause before condemning.

Edit: longstanding depression, according to Pidgeley. I hope he finds a way to cope or recover. At its worst that's something that can have terrible consequences.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47444 is a reply to message 47443Wed, 12 September 2018 23:47  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Sorry, I disagree, this is semi pro football, only two steps away from Football league!!

There surely has to be a serious degree of commitment, and availability, from Players to the Club, or we are all wasting our time!!!

I agree that day job and family should always come first, but that should be taken in to account BEFORE committing to joining a semi pro Club when you know what is entailed with travelling and availabilities.

The Lenny situation is tragic, and I truly wish him well, and I apologise if I insinuated anything untoward earlier.

Good luck big man!!


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Re: Club statement   Message 47446 is a reply to message 47444Thu, 13 September 2018 07:28  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I can understand the Club's anxiety to attempt to explain what looks like farce, but that doesn't justify outing someone, it really doesn't.*

I wish Lenny the very best in continuing to combat the Black Dog.

Perhaps the Club could atone by organising a collection on behalf of the Depression Alliance charity that does valuable work in this field?

*This tweet by Lenny refers:-
https://twitter.com/pidge40/status/1039988537326796800

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Re: Club statement   Message 47447 is a reply to message 47444Thu, 13 September 2018 08:12  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Bob Perry wrote on Wed, 12 September 2018 23:47
Sorry, I disagree, this is semi pro football, only two steps away from Football league!!

There surely has to be a serious degree of commitment, and availability, from Players to the Club, or we are all wasting our time!!!

I agree that day job and family should always come first, but that should be taken in to account BEFORE committing to joining a semi pro Club when you know what is entailed with travelling and availabilities.


Fair enough Bob, think we'll just agree to disagree! I don't expect a second string player who's probably getting a bit of appearance money to guarantee their availability. Of course, if they're fully contracted, pro, or serious about making it into professional football, then I would expect more from them.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47448 is a reply to message 47447Thu, 13 September 2018 09:11  Go to previous messageGo to next message

OK so that's another year we have no FA cup matches to look forward to early on. In all this carry on I would like to say thanks to CJ for stepping up to the plate a la Cards. A close run thing until the penalties did for us, so I assume the boy dun good.
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Re: Club statement   Message 47453 is a reply to message 47448Thu, 13 September 2018 18:42  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Ex-Chelsea goalkeeper Lenny Pidgeley retires after ten-year battle with depression, but former club Farnborough complain of "shocking" timing

➡️https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/ 23938/former-chelsea-millwall-and-newport-county-goalkeeper- lenny-pidgeley-retires-after-ten-year-battle-with-depression -but-farnborough-complain-of-shocking-timing/ ...

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Re: Club statement   Message 47454 is a reply to message 47453Thu, 13 September 2018 19:21  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I suffered from depression for 5 years and have been a Farnborough Fan for over 25 years BUT enough is enough. The club has had bad press during the Westley period but this seems a kick in the teeth. I wonder who agreed the club statement? I have over looked Spencer's odd decisions mainly because at the start he did save the club and put his own money in. Please Spencer go now before the Club loses any more respect. And I will be there Saturday because Boro are MY team and will cheer on the lads. Hope we have a Goalkeeper!

All the best Lenny.


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Re: Club statement   Message 47455 is a reply to message 47454Thu, 13 September 2018 20:17  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Football club slammed for "outing" ex-Chelsea goalkeeper Lenny Pidgeley as suffering from mental health issues

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-club-s lammed-outing-ex-13240326?12 ... pic.twitter.com/ymuD9za6LT

"Farnborough refused to comment further when contacted by Mirror Football" Why oh Why ???

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Re: Club statement   Message 47456 is a reply to message 47455Thu, 13 September 2018 21:20  Go to previous messageGo to next message

In fairness to Farnborough, the statement doesn't state the medical issue in question, just saying that there was one. Unless there is a Tweet or another announcement I'm missing. But based on that alone, I wouldn't have necessarily thought depression...

As for the usage of the word shocking, I think it means it was a shock because it (apparently) came out of the blue and there was no prior indication... At least that's the way I interpreted it at the time. Though if that is the case, it could have perhaps been worded differently to provide greater clarification.

Or it could be ragging on Lenny for announcing it at the time he did.

I don't know which is the case, but life has taught me that things are rarely black and white, and what seems obvious is not always the case. That being said, I wish Lenny well in his battle with depression which is a horrible thing for anyone to face.


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Re: Club statement   Message 47457 is a reply to message 47456Thu, 13 September 2018 22:51  Go to previous messageGo to next message

http://www.farnboroughfc.co.uk/2018/club-statement-23/

There has been clarification of the earlier statement. Wish Lenny all the very best. Depression is a terrible thing and hope he gets the support he needs to push through it.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47458 is a reply to message 47457Thu, 13 September 2018 23:12  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Hmmm!!! When you are in a hole, stop digging!!!



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Re: Club statement   Message 47459 is a reply to message 47457Thu, 13 September 2018 23:37  Go to previous messageGo to next message

JimmyBolton wrote on Thu, 13 September 2018 22:51
http://www.farnboroughfc.co.uk/2018/club-statement-23/

There has been clarification of the earlier statement. Wish Lenny all the very best. Depression is a terrible thing and hope he gets the support he needs to push through it.


The issue is, the Club is 100% responsible for very publicly outing an employee's health issues (which, as the employee concerned has confirmed, are related to mental health).

THIS IS NOT GOOD.

To be very generous, I get that our Club isn't some kind of multi-national with loads of lawyers and HR people in tow, but, this is so basic I have to question the Club's officials about their competence.

This is a new low, absolutely disgraceful.

I can only hope Lenny takes this stuff on the chin, bearing in mind he's just had to reveal to many who know him what he's going through (not by his choice).

Disgraceful. At the very least, the Club has to very publicly take the necessary steps to understand what has been done and to very publicly take effective steps about it, both for Lenny personally and wider. I suggest the Club engages straightaway with mental health charities to guide them, to listen well and then do the right thing.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47460 is a reply to message 47459Fri, 14 September 2018 13:02  Go to previous messageGo to next message

There seem to be no balances and checks on what is posted up in the spur of the moment. If some more more thought had gone into the wording then this would never have happened.
"Outing" someone like this, by an employer, is probably unlawful and could result in legal action. That's before you even consider the wellbeing of Lenny.
Nigel's right -this is a new low and has been a PR disaster for the club.
As for the goalkeeping situation - that's poor too. Anyone who plays non league football at this level must know they could be called upon to make longish mid week trips, which will mean leaving work early. So why wasn't this explored beforehand and availability checked well in advance? With £6,000 at stake I can't quite believe it.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47461 is a reply to message 47460Fri, 14 September 2018 14:26  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Creeky wrote:

As for the goalkeeping situation - that's poor too. Anyone who plays non league football at this level must know they could be called upon to make longish mid week trips, which will mean leaving work early. So why wasn't this explored beforehand and availability checked well in advance? With £6,000 at stake I can't quite believe it.

This has been my point all along Adrian, apart from the tragic situation with Lenny, for which we can all sympathise, ANY player that joins a Club at this standard and level, must be aware, or at least made aware, of the minimum requirements i.e playing Saturdays and possibly midweek, which means being able to get off work suitably, and training Tuesday and Thursday evenings.

It surely must be a crucial part of the negotiations between player and Management at the point of discussing signing!!

If they can't commit to those standards then, regrettably, we have to say no deal!!

If that wasn't agreed during the discussion between Management and Stroud, prior to signing, then there is an urgent breech that needs plugging in future talks with players.

If however this is a horrible unavoidable one off, like the Banbury situation last year, then I am prepared to put it down to damn bad luck, but if not then questions need to be asked at a high level in the Club, AND actions taken!!

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Re: Club statement   Message 47462 is a reply to message 47461Fri, 14 September 2018 16:39  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I see that the original statement has been removed... Make your own conclusions about that..

As for the goalkeeper situation, the Club knew of this well before kick off. Why wasn't a loan keeper brought in to fill the position? Failing that, put the Academy keeper on to registration forms with the league, he could have played.

We had youth teams affiliated to the Club or has that all been disbanded? We really are beginning to look a bit donald duck...


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Re: Club statement   Message 47463 is a reply to message 47462Fri, 14 September 2018 17:18  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I may be wrong, but I believe that there is a seven day registration limit for F.A. Cup games!
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Re: Club statement   Message 47464 is a reply to message 47463Fri, 14 September 2018 17:52  Go to previous messageGo to next message

From what I remember Bob, you could bring in a keeper under extraordinary conditions, which in our case could probably have happened.
As for the Academy players, they are normally registered to the Club when they join the Academy.

The rules state that in a replay, you have to play with members of your squad that were registered with the Club for the original tie.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47465 is a reply to message 47463Fri, 14 September 2018 18:27  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Bob Perry wrote on Fri, 14 September 2018 17:18
I may be wrong, but I believe that there is a seven day registration limit for F.A. Cup games!


Not for the qualifying rounds Bob.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47466 is a reply to message 47465Fri, 14 September 2018 22:30  Go to previous messageGo to next message

And now the story hits the BBC.

You fucked up, Spencer. I get the frustration but this was a really, ready bad reaction.

Lurching from one bad press move to another, the Farnborough way.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47467 is a reply to message 47466Fri, 14 September 2018 22:39  Go to previous messageGo to next message

The story is here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45527016

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Re: Club statement   Message 47468 is a reply to message 47466Fri, 14 September 2018 23:10  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I am disgusted with this latest show of heartlessness from the club. The club cannot still pretend to be a "community club" when it acts in this way.
The signs were there when the club refused to deal with a very stupid family who regularly launched homophobic tirades at players. The signs were there when the club refused to put a simple Football For Everyone banner on the website.
I am utterly ashamed that I was ever associated with this club. I am now going through the process of removing all my Farnborough FC photographs from public view so there can be no access to them. I will take legal action against the club if any of my photographs are used anywhere - however unlikely that may be as I know they're old and out of date now anyway.
It's even more hilarious now that a club bully should have condemned me for allowing a local paper to publish a picture of naughty Hereford fans because it showed the club in a bad light. What a shallow and nasty little life these people must be living. I wonder how they can sleep at night.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47469 is a reply to message 47461Sat, 15 September 2018 01:39  Go to previous messageGo to next message

You are assuming that James is playing professionally i.e. getting paid for his services.

But James is not playing for us as a professional and he's not getting paid, just basic travel expenses. He just loves the game (and, from what I have seen, is pretty adept at it). However his commitment to his studies means that his availability is not 100%. That is the Club's problem, not his.




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Re: Club statement   Message 47470 is a reply to message 47469Sat, 15 September 2018 10:15  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I'm afraid that is the Club's biggest conundrum, trying to compete at a higher level on lower expenses!!

I'm not blaming the players in any way, and they have all given their best I'm sure.

At this standard of football though, and to compete properly with the other Clubs, it is mandatory for players to be available once a week for matches and twice a week for evening training or away travel.

It's not a 'make it if you can' situation, it's what should be a demand from the Club on signing negotiation.
Can't commit?, can't sign you, sorry!

If that requires an increase in financial input then that is what is needed, and is the requirement of Club Ownership to explore ways of achieving it, without breaking the bank!

Yes, I can here you say, utopia, but without a stronger financial structure, and good use of it!!, this Club will always just bobble along, from one crisis to another, and the spiral can only go one way, downwards!!


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Re: Club statement   Message 47471 is a reply to message 47468Sat, 15 September 2018 12:46  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Snapperchap wrote on Fri, 14 September 2018 23:10
I am disgusted with this latest show of heartlessness from the club. The club cannot still pretend to be a "community club" when it acts in this way.
The signs were there when the club refused to deal with a very stupid family who regularly launched homophobic tirades at players. The signs were there when the club refused to put a simple Football For Everyone banner on the website.
I am utterly ashamed that I was ever associated with this club. I am now going through the process of removing all my Farnborough FC photographs from public view so there can be no access to them. I will take legal action against the club if any of my photographs are used anywhere - however unlikely that may be as I know they're old and out of date now anyway.
It's even more hilarious now that a club bully should have condemned me for allowing a local paper to publish a picture of naughty Hereford fans because it showed the club in a bad light. What a shallow and nasty little life these people must be living. I wonder how they can sleep at night.



I think a better way to describe the original statement would be thoughtless and reckless. As easy as it is to demonize those in charge at the club I strongly doubt anyone wrote the article with direct ill intentions towards Lenny. Stupid, absolutely. Spiteful, I don't think so.

Unfortunately for the club we now live in an age fueled by social media where people all over the world are looking for ways to be offended and this careless press release looks as though it is going to cause some irreparable damage (again) in the public eye.

The best course of action now would be for Boro fans to come up with a collection of our own, and donating to an appropriate charity as advised by Lenny. By fans rallying around one of our own at this time would go a long way to separating the fans and the people of Farnborough to those painting the club in a bad light. With posts like the one above, and many more comments I have seen of faux outrage on social media I fear that many people would prefer to exasperate the situation with more negativity, rather than focus on the real issue which is the mental health of one of our players.

If anyone on the ground in Farnborough would be willing to take the reigns with this I will be the first donation. If still available I'll also sponsor Lenny's kit for the remainder of the season to show my support to a lad who must be going through an extremely tough time right now.

This is a great opportunity to show the footballing community that us Boro fans are the one constant positive in between all the mismanagement we've had over the years.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47472 is a reply to message 47471Sat, 15 September 2018 13:48  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I agree with Dan. A good collection from the fans will show the true care for Lenny from us and hopefully shine some positive light on to the club after the stupid and rash statement.

The club are the fans!

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Re: Club statement   Message 47474 is a reply to message 47472Sat, 15 September 2018 14:50  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Ace post, Lawson!
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Re: Club statement   Message 47495 is a reply to message 47471Sat, 15 September 2018 23:27  Go to previous messageGo to next message

[quote title=lawson wrote on Sat, 15 September 2018 12:46]Snapperchap wrote on Fri, 14 September 2018 23:10
I have seen of faux outrage on social media I fear that many people would prefer to exasperate the situation with more negativity, rather than focus on the real issue which is the mental health of one of our players.



There's nothing false about my outrage. It's very real. This isn't the first time the club has been brought down in this way. They seem to lack any ability to manage anything. Be it a football club or a media statement. It would be good if the club embraced everyone in the community but it comes across as very narrow-minded and old-fashioned to me. Football has moved on but some are still stuck in the past and are still shaped by views that are just embarrassing and prejudiced. A positive reaction from those running the club would've been to arrange a MIND fundraiser but as always they're too out of step to think so progressively and so they just bumble along wondering why they're being criticised and persecuted.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47496 is a reply to message 47495Sun, 16 September 2018 12:40  Go to previous messageGo to next message

[quote title=Snapperchap wrote on Sat, 15 September 2018 23:27]lawson wrote on Sat, 15 September 2018 12:46
Snapperchap wrote on Fri, 14 September 2018 23:10
I have seen of faux outrage on social media I fear that many people would prefer to exasperate the situation with more negativity, rather than focus on the real issue which is the mental health of one of our players.



There's nothing false about my outrage. It's very real. This isn't the first time the club has been brought down in this way. They seem to lack any ability to manage anything. Be it a football club or a media statement. It would be good if the club embraced everyone in the community but it comes across as very narrow-minded and old-fashioned to me. Football has moved on but some are still stuck in the past and are still shaped by views that are just embarrassing and prejudiced. A positive reaction from those running the club would've been to arrange a MIND fundraiser but as always they're too out of step to think so progressively and so they just bumble along wondering why they're being criticised and persecuted.



You've kind of just backed up my point there, mate. Not once did you just mention Lenny there, who should be the main focus right now.

You can only change what you can affect, moaning about the club and those that run it won't get you anywhere, nor will removing all your Farnborough pictures. I think if you put as much effort into the well-being of Lenny Pidgely as you have done into your posts having a pop at those running FFC we would be well on our way to making the best out of a bad situation.

I think it's time us Boro fans took the initiative in rebuilding what was once such a feel good community atmosphere around the club, in spite of, and not waiting for those running it give us some kind of endorsement or vindication. It's become so apparent that behind the scenes the club is erratically run at best, but there are so many good people within our support base and it is such a shame to see all the constant negativity. We are all passionate but this energy could used for such better purposes for the better of the club

Yes, it's easy for me to say from afar, but having been home and away through the Westley, then Theo, then Higgins and Turberville, then Hollis eras I am speaking from experience! This negativity will get us nowhere.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47497 is a reply to message 47496Sun, 16 September 2018 15:48  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Well said mate. The one thing i find baffling in all of this is how the club are being blamed for outing Lenny's issue when as far as i can remember the statement did not mention the illness at all. Yes the wording was poor, yes the timing was poor but as a sufferer of depression and anxiety myself i feel i am qualified to say that if this statement had been made about me i would have been annoyed at the wording and timing but wouldn't have seen it as belittling or making light of my mental health issues. We don't know the conversation Lenny had with Spencer and the exact words. Did Lenny ask for this to be kept away from social media?
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Re: Club statement   Message 47503 is a reply to message 47497Mon, 17 September 2018 06:09  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Kevin Nash wrote on Sun, 16 September 2018 15:48
Well said mate. The one thing i find baffling in all of this is how the club are being blamed for outing Lenny's issue when as far as i can remember the statement did not mention the illness at all. Yes the wording was poor, yes the timing was poor but as a sufferer of depression and anxiety myself i feel i am qualified to say that if this statement had been made about me i would have been annoyed at the wording and timing but wouldn't have seen it as belittling or making light of my mental health issues. We don't know the conversation Lenny had with Spencer and the exact words. Did Lenny ask for this to be kept away from social media?


It's simple, the principle is the same whether it's a mental health issue or racism. It is for the subject of a message to determine, not the writer.

An example: The Labour Party has been getting itself into trouble in the summer by trying to define "anti-semitism" in its own way instead of going with a widely used definition agreed by Jewish organisations (I am not going into the pros and cons of the Labour leadership's stance but it does illustrate the difficulties that can follow if the principle I've outlined above is not adhered to).

Likewise, compare and contrast a statement from Margate FC last December and last week's statement by Farnborough FC (which has been taken down from the Official website).

http://www.margate-fc.co.uk/news/11-dec-2017/Update-on-Gate- Goalkeeper-Lenny-Pidgeley

One statement mentions a period of compassionate leave for a woolly reason that could mean anything. Easy enough for Pidgeley to deflect if asked.

The other includes says Pidgeley abruptly retired "at 4pm", that this was "shocking timing" and mentions a "long standing personal medical issue".

This caused people following Pidgeley's social media account(s) to start asking questions and his resultant tweet is clear that he believes he was outed.

I firmly believe Farnborough's statement was a case of cock-up rather than conspiracy. Clearly it was published in the heat of the moment (when the Lewes replay was in progress). However that does not excuse the content and I hope lessons have been learnt.

That said, a different explanation was being touted at the game on Saturday - I'll keep my powder dry on that one unless and until anything happens.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47507 is a reply to message 47503Mon, 17 September 2018 13:23  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Agreed with the first statement being totally foot in mouth rather than an intentional slur. I do wonder how much the club knew about his depression. He says he kept it very much to himself. In that case the 'long standing medical condition' might be what he told Spencer that Wednesday and it just got passed on to the statement, without much thought of course. Of course it was Spencer who made the statement, despite not putting his name on it. He knew he would get the finger pointed at him for not having a keeper so in true Spencer style he put a statement out laying the blame on others. In hindsight putting 'Unavailable at short notice' would have saved a lot of bad press.

The 2nd statement was a chance to get out of the hole. What really annoys me though is that once agan the name of Farnborough gets dragged through the gutter(again) by the actions of 1 or 2 individuals. In that short 2nd statement "The Club" is mentioned 3 times. Doesn't get much more impersonal than that. Either the Chairman or Manager should have signed it off and given more than a few paragraphs on a website. TV/Radio? Let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Take some responsibility for a change.

'The Club will make no further comment.' What a terrible way to end it.

Garbo, we all know who is really pulling the strings at the club(or the manager would have been sacked long ago) but you should still have stepped in as the official man at the top. It would only be you or Spencer making those statements and from the tone and nature we can assume it was Spencer but still, do the right thing.

Spencer, not only have you proved to be inept as a manager tactically and on the man management side, but this last week has shown you to be one very willing to hide and let the club as a whole take the hit for your irresponsible actions. Do you still wonder why so few people turn up to matches. Look in the mirror and kindly leave.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47508 is a reply to message 47507Mon, 17 September 2018 15:27  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I second that comment by "Trents"

Can we now move swiftly to a vote,which I trust will be passed unanimously and with no abstentions.

Order! Order ! The ayes have it,the ayes have it.

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Re: Club statement   Message 47509 is a reply to message 47508Mon, 17 September 2018 17:41  Go to previous messageGo to next message

It would be a wasted vote, even if it came up 100% in favour!!

Mugabi had a similar style of control. I'm not going whatever the vote says!!

On a separate note I see from the Basingstoke site that James Stroud is listed as our goalkeeper tomorrow night. There is no second keeper listed!

Also further down their site there is a comment on Michael Atkinson joining us saying " He must have gone for a few bob more, as we are paying peanuts!!"

I thought we had that dubious honour, or so we are constantly being told!


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Re: Club statement   Message 47517 is a reply to message 47496Tue, 18 September 2018 13:56  Go to previous message

lawson wrote on Sun, 16 September 2018 12:40

...moaning about the club and those that run it won't get you anywhere...

...having been home and away through the Westley, then Theo, then Higgins and Turberville, then Hollis eras I am speaking from experience! This negativity will get us nowhere.



Are you sure you were there for Pinky and perky?? I remember a lot of moaning about the club and those who run it. That worked out in the end.



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