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Perry Coles   Message 45868Sun, 11 February 2018 14:02  Go to next message

Might be off to Slough. 7 day approach been put in. Although, not from a very reliable source
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45869 is a reply to message 45868Sun, 11 February 2018 14:49  Go to previous messageGo to next message

lets hope its not a reliable source.
But if he's under contract we should get a fee at least.

Not sure we can play a match made up of more loanees than our players.

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45870 is a reply to message 45869Sun, 11 February 2018 17:48  Go to previous messageGo to next message

That's a real shame, if its true, although in all honesty I'm just surprised that no one has come in for him before really.

A seven day approach, suggests to me that he may not have been on contract, and therefore there would be no fee.

A commitment to the following season is not necessarily the same as a contract, that's if contracts are worth anything these days anyway!!

A contract would of course mean a fee to be negotiated and, unless it's the monopoly money that flushes around these days, it wouldn't be particularly high at this level.

My argument would be that if we are truly building a squad for next season, then surely Perry would have been the first on the list to tie down, and if not way not??

To lose a player of his calibre for next to nothing would be a pretty poor judgement on our part, and if there is a fee then to value a fee, unless it really is silly money, and I don't think Slough are that sort of Club, over a crucial player for next seasons squad is worrying in the extreme!!

Lets hope this is all rubbish on Sid's part, and we keep a bloody good player.




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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45871 is a reply to message 45870Sun, 11 February 2018 17:54  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Now on Twitter. I said when Ciardini , Huggins, Cureton left that Perry won't stay that much longer.
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45872 is a reply to message 45871Sun, 11 February 2018 18:03  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Now on the official site, bugger it!!
Just hope there was a fee involved, if not that would be tragic!!


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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45873 is a reply to message 45872Sun, 11 February 2018 18:22  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Apparently we got absolutely F**k all from Slough for Perry as he wasn't contracted!

Why the hell were we not giving contracts to the likes of the lads that have all left the past few months?!

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45874 is a reply to message 45872Sun, 11 February 2018 18:22  Go to previous messageGo to next message

There is a clue here in why nobody seems too keen on sponsoring a player nowadays. Are there any left that we started the season with except perhaps CJ.?
It feels like this has been the case for the last three seasons. No stability.

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45875 is a reply to message 45874Sun, 11 February 2018 18:57  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I doubt if there is any truth in the wicked rumour that a 7 day approach has been made for Spencer ?
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45876 is a reply to message 45874Sun, 11 February 2018 19:05  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Merlin wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 18:22
There is a clue here in why nobody seems too keen on sponsoring a player nowadays. Are there any left that we started the season with except perhaps CJ.?
It feels like this has been the case for the last three seasons. No stability.


Probably best to sponsor a shirt number from 1 to 11

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45877 is a reply to message 45875Sun, 11 February 2018 19:07  Go to previous messageGo to next message

If I approached Spencer it would be with a pitchfork...

Oops, what a keyboard warrior I am. Another Scotch is called for!

I think I recognised more players at Poole-Havant than I would at Cherrywood Rd these days...

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45878 is a reply to message 45874Sun, 11 February 2018 19:09  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Merlin wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 18:22
There is a clue here in why nobody seems too keen on sponsoring a player nowadays. Are there any left that we started the season with except perhaps CJ.?
It feels like this has been the case for the last three seasons. No stability.


Probably best to sponsor a shirt number from 1 to 11

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45879 is a reply to message 45878Sun, 11 February 2018 19:24  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Wonder if our owners are still wondering why so many people have stopped attending games?
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45880 is a reply to message 45879Sun, 11 February 2018 19:30  Go to previous messageGo to next message

PRE ENDER wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 19:24
Wonder if our owners are still wondering why so many people have stopped attending games?



Could guarantee that with a new change of management the club would get in excess of at least 500/600 a game!

Do the right thing Spencer and step aside. This club is slowly dying! Without fans the club is nothing!

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45881 is a reply to message 45880Sun, 11 February 2018 20:31  Go to previous messageGo to next message

In Spencer we trust!
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45882 is a reply to message 45873Sun, 11 February 2018 22:22  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Treble wrote:

[b]Apparently we got absolutely F**k all from Slough for Perry as he wasn't contracted!

Why the hell were we not giving contracts to the likes of the lads that have all left the past few months?!

[/b]

No Official announcement yet, and I'm not holding my breath, as to contract or not, and fee or not, but if he was allowed to go for zippo, then that has to be a dereliction of duty on behalf of our Management!!

If we are struggling financially, as we are always being told, why the hell have we just let a prized asset slip through our fingers???

Not sure I want to put the boost the budget bucket out on the table next week!!

You can't blame supporters for not contributing now!!!!

Good luck Perry, you deserve better. Hope it all goes well, and thanks for your time, and goals, at the Boro.

Might start watching a few Slough games in future!!










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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45883 is a reply to message 45882Sun, 11 February 2018 22:42  Go to previous messageGo to next message

From what I heard Perry has been continually offered terms since he first joined but has never signed - at the end of the day you can't force someone to do so!.. Not aware of what the terms were but I doubt the club has the means to compete with Slough who were rumoured to have been waving silly money at another player who was recently with us.
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45884 is a reply to message 45883Sun, 11 February 2018 23:13  Go to previous messageGo to next message

If that is the case, that the Club have been repeatedly offering terms, but he refused to sign, then why didn't they put that out in the statement??
It might have stopped a lot of unnecessary traffic on here!!!

Basic PR again!! I've had enough!!!

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45885 is a reply to message 45884Sun, 11 February 2018 23:32  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Whilst I try to attend every home game that I can, it has not been possible, for various reasons, for me to be at San Cheerio since early January.

It appears that pretty much all of the players that I enjoyed watching, other than Jack Barton and CJ, have now left...

So, I'm left asking myself why I should spend £12 to watch a bunch of guys who I've never seen before and may never see again?

Feels like all empathy has evaporated and God only knows how the current situation can be masqueraded as "building for the future"...?



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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45886 is a reply to message 45885Mon, 12 February 2018 07:34  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Firstly, thanks Perry, it's been a pleasure to watch you develop whilst at Boro'. Good luck in developing your career at Slough and beyond.

In 2016, the Club made a big thing of accepting that building teams out of spare parts and loanees was not the way to go.
Accordingly, the 2016/17 season saw a team built around a strong core of talented local players that won promotion. Much of that team started the 2017/18 season.

Unfortunately, the Club has reverted to type and here we are again with the team once more being comprised of spare parts and loanees. It is extremely difficult to persuade Boro' fans to cheer on no-doubt honest young lads where no one knows who they are or how many weeks they will be around before they disappear again.

If the Club has serious pretensions to progress to be a solid team at this level and (I hope) to return to Conference South then this is not the way to go.

I accept this season is a dead one for many SLP clubs as there is only one relegation spot due to the upcoming reorganisation, but we are in severe danger of squandering the opportunity of building now for the future - throwing something together in the close season would be a high-risk strategy at best.

The Club has made significant strides to be far more businesslike off the pitch, but this is not being matched by the offer to local football fans, which undermines and jeopardises the business model. I want the Club to succeed, but it is making it far harder for itself than it needs to be.


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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45887 is a reply to message 45886Mon, 12 February 2018 09:00  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Well said Nigel. Why is this man not our manager?
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45888 is a reply to message 45887Mon, 12 February 2018 09:56  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Absolutely spot on as always Nigel.

Some great work off the pitch is being spoilt by the display product, and customers in any business will not put up with second rate product at premium prices!!

ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about the Club relies on the product on the pitch, and it's time that the powers at be SERIOUSLY took that on board.

Product no good, customers won't buy, basic of basic sales pitch really!!!

That's not a dig at any, well endeavoured, player that has put on a Boro shirt by the way, I'm sure they all do their darndest to put on a good show.
There are many young and eager, fairly gifted, players at this level, and below, who would love the chance to perform on a bigger stage and be coached by good management staff as they progress up in their careers, but it needs consistency and patience to gel a squad together.

Whatever views there may be re our current management/coaching team, and their respective abilities, the revolving door method is NOT the way to go, in my opinion, and smacks a little bit of doubt in the ability to achieve those ambitions from the Management point of view, however well intentioned!!

As a suggestion, I would say , its time for some radical action.

How about incorporating the whole Academy section in to first team action for the remainder of the season, including the management team, plus the few senior players we have left and lets see where it takes us.

At least it will ensure a bit of continuity and to hell with the results, which won't matter one iota this season.

You never know, Supporters may even welcome it, if they understand the reasoning, and it is explained properly!

ARE THE POWERS AT BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO IT???

Everyone wants the Club to succeed and not get in to the dreadful bust and boom situations of the past, and I honestly believe we are now living within our means which is commendable from all concerned.
Once consolidated though it is time to reflect on the past mistakes and look for ways to take us forward.

I sincerely hope the Owners are looking at the position seriously and will take the right actions for all our sakes.

COME ON YOUYELLOWWSSAA!!



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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45889 is a reply to message 45888Mon, 12 February 2018 10:44  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Perry has been a true gem in the side and made the step up from Camberley look seamless; from Div 1 South and again at Premier. His nous and ability is for all to see and once again we let him slip away. Great management Spencer. Just keep taking it all apart, all the stalwarts and honest guys that gave it their all for Boro, just so you can continue to play "manager" in your own special Championship Manager way.

Building that team still for next season Spencer? Get that loan phone out again.


It was all so rosy 2 weeks ago:


http://www.farnboroughfc.co.uk/2018/player-update-26-january-2018/
First Team Manager, Spencer Day gives the following update...

"I'm delighted to announce that, firstly the club has agreed terms with Perry Coles to secure his services until the end of next season. Perry came from Step 5 and has continually stated he wants to play for his local side Boro and he has developed into a quality Step 3 player who continues to improve"


What were these terms? A packet of salt & vinegar for each goal? These are players you should be building a team around.
You've right royally f#cked it you halfwit.

Post Redditch game he set about "building a side for next season". Well we know it's bullcrap; it was all about building a side to take us to the end of the year on a shoestring. The rebuilt team that day was:



v Merthyr - 13th Jan
1: Aiden Upward
2: Luke King
3: Matt Jones
4: CJ Fearn (c)
5: Rob Bartley
6: Nathaniel Oseni
7: Dan Walker (loan)
8: Jack Barton
9: Connor Calcutt
10: Matt Campbell
11: Ambrose Gnahore

12: Lewis Ferrell
14: Brett Cunningham
15: Matt Roberts
16: CJ Williams-Agunabor
17: Elijah Anyan


In bold are those that have already gone.


On to Saturday's line up

V Hitchin 10th Feb

1 Craig Bradshaw
2 Luke King
3 Matt Jones
4 CJ Fearn
5 Josh Bailey
6 Adam Everitt
7 Andrew Sealey-Harris (loan)
8 Nathaniel Oseni
9 Perry Coles
10 Jayden Antwi (loan)
11 Michael Elias-Fernandes

12 Connor Calcutt
14 Matthew Campbell-Mhlope
15 Josh Brace
16 CJ Williams-Agunabor
17 Manny Omrore


Bold those that have gone, italics for new. Not named also new was Begovic. Jack Barton was suspended.

A nicely settled squad Spencer? Keep that revolving door going.

I am going to take a punt here and suggest that barely 3 of those 15 will be here next season with that team being built for then.

Enough is enough. Just bugger off back to your mansion with all your fancy cars that the bank owns. You've taken this as far as you can. Take your cronies with you.


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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45890 is a reply to message 45889Mon, 12 February 2018 11:04  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Lot of emotions triggered by this news, entirely understandably.

From Perry's point of view though, it had to be a no-brainer - stick around and tread water at a club that's been on a downward spiral for a while (and whose season ended back in November) or take on a new challenge and help another local club kickstart their promotion push, which has been badly faltering in recent weeks.

That's football. The concerning part here, of course, is the bigger picture. As HBB says: "I doubt the club has the means to compete with Slough." That's Slough remember - not AFC Fylde, not Man City. Slough. We've come a long way at FFC haven't we?

And why can't we compete with the money Slough are offering? Why would Perry refuse to sign a contract that, by all accounts, was utterly desultory (see his other half's tweet)? Why couldn't we offer him something commensurate with his ability?

Because attendances are dwindling, that's why. So we "have to cut our cloth accordingly". And they're dwindling because of the approach of the current regime - a regime that seems to get somewhat prickly when self-evident truths are pointed out - as many are doing on this thread.

But, as I've said before, focussing on a change of manager is a red herring. Until new owners come in we continue with the same pattern as all-through this season on the pitch. And a once well-supported club continues to go through terminal decline. New owners won't come in, because the current regime want a return on their investment, quite understandably, and so FFC doesn't look like good value, not when other clubs with promise can be had for nowt. So we continue with our Emperor For Life, leading us slowly into the abyss, for all eternity - all hail, all hail.


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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45891 is a reply to message 45890Mon, 12 February 2018 14:46  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I find it impossible to criticise Perry, or indeed any other player who has left us, when I, as a longstanding supporter and season ticket holder, now only attend on the odd occasion. I return from time to time to see if I can re-ignite my interest but so far without success. My son, also a fan for over 25 years, has decided not to come back at all under the present conditions.

I was looking at the squad of 15 players who started the season against St Neots and, if my understanding is correct, only one player and one substitute are still at the club. Goodness knows how many others have joined us since then only to leave shortly after. The main site has few match reports so it's difficult to know just how many have played this season but it must be over 40 and we're just into February.

Therein lies the rub. I can't find a connection now with the players, because no sooner do you remember their name than they leave, and certainly not with the manager or those who run the club because I've never felt any connection there at all. That leaves only the fans - and they deserve a lot better. Boro is fortunate to have so many really loyal fans though even some of them are now drifting away - especially after the way that some of the volunteer helpers seem to have been treated. However, as great as the fans are, it is not enough to compensate for the growing frustration I have experienced as a fan myself in recent years.

I am not holding my breath that things will change for the better anytime soon. The club's only real assets are its history and its loyal fan base. I find it inconceivable that there are buyers out there prepared to pay enough for that or that the manager will decide to move on. So I can only see more of the same. I intend to come back from time to time but more in hope than expectation.

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45892 is a reply to message 45890Mon, 12 February 2018 16:03  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Peter Crouch's Publicist wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 11:04
Lot of emotions triggered by this news, entirely understandably.


But, as I've said before, focussing on a change of manager is a red herring. Until new owners come in we continue with the same pattern as all-through this season on the pitch. And a once well-supported club continues to go through terminal decline. New owners won't come in, because the current regime want a return on their investment, quite understandably, and so FFC doesn't look like good value, not when other clubs with promise can be had for nowt. So we continue with our Emperor For Life, leading us slowly into the abyss, for all eternity - all hail, all hail.



If my memory serves me correctly, the current owners only paid £30,000 to take the club out of administration so there is not much return on their investment.

Why is the club not up for sale if the current board of directors can no longer afford to encourage good players to stay? Give it to the fans and let us be another Lewes or Dorchester. Players and fans will return! Time to go forward!

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45893 is a reply to message 45891Mon, 12 February 2018 16:05  Go to previous messageGo to next message

v St Neots

1. Liam stone (gk)
2. John Oyenuga
3. Nic Ciardini
4. CJ Fearn
5. Jack Saville
6. Josh Huggins (Capt)
7. Keith Emmerson
8. Matt Bunyan
9. Jamie Cureton
10. Perry Coles
11. Chris Regis

Substitutes:
12. Nick Hutchings
14. Jack Barton
15. Ethan Allen
17. Luke Cairney


2 players remain

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45894 is a reply to message 45892Mon, 12 February 2018 16:22  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Les Ashgrove wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 16:03
Peter Crouch's Publicist wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 11:04
Lot of emotions triggered by this news, entirely understandably.


But, as I've said before, focussing on a change of manager is a red herring. Until new owners come in we continue with the same pattern as all-through this season on the pitch. And a once well-supported club continues to go through terminal decline. New owners won't come in, because the current regime want a return on their investment, quite understandably, and so FFC doesn't look like good value, not when other clubs with promise can be had for nowt. So we continue with our Emperor For Life, leading us slowly into the abyss, for all eternity - all hail, all hail.



If my memory serves me correctly, the current owners only paid £30,000 to take the club out of administration so there is not much return on their investment.

Why is the club not up for sale if the current board of directors can no longer afford to encourage good players to stay? Give it to the fans and let us be another Lewes or Dorchester. Players and fans will return! Time to go forward!


That's not going to be the amount cited by Spencer once all investment has been taken into account. We went through all this before when the club was brought out of administration.

The club has effectively been up for sale for a long time - but no one is interested in it at the current asking price. Understandably (not that we know what that price is).

Plus, of course, a new owner would want to bring their own management team in, which the current regime aren't in favour of....

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45895 is a reply to message 45894Mon, 12 February 2018 16:38  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I asked about the price a while ago, could be wrong, but I think someone suggested they wanted in the region of £2,000,000. Obviously a non-starter unless you're looking to flatten the place and turn it into another ghastly estate.
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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45896 is a reply to message 45895Mon, 12 February 2018 17:07  Go to previous messageGo to next message

kratos wrote on Mon, 12 February 2018 16:38
I asked about the price a while ago, could be wrong, but I think someone suggested they wanted in the region of £2,000,000. Obviously a non-starter unless you're looking to flatten the place and turn it into another ghastly estate.


At the rate they're going, it wont be worth £2000...

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Re: Perry Coles   Message 45898 is a reply to message 45890Mon, 12 February 2018 22:50  Go to previous message

It's bad enough having the awful Tory governments running the country over recent years - preaching austerity, whilst they and their friends are doing very nicely, thank-you.
Having my football club constantly preaching austerity is just unbearable. When occasional statements have been virtually beaten out of the owner/manager over the years we've been told about the ambition to become a sustainable club. Yet we remain in a miserable situation - unable to sustain the very thing that keeps a club and its fans buoyant - consistency on the pitch.
We lose our heroes so often it's almost as if the manager isn't a fan of the club and makes it look like the owner doesn't even like football or understand it. As if,eh?!

We have regularly been promised jam tomorrow. Really? See how positive messages are cynically concocted by the club at the time when the club is trying to flog season tickets. It's unacceptable and manipulative - even for a football club.
I see a bleak future under the current regime. Yes my ideal situation is complete fan ownership but of course that can bring different issues and doesn't guarantee success either. The thing is though, we're not necessarily seeking success. It would be just nice to have some sort of consistency and have our club back. Sigh.


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