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City Gent's Son is currently offline City Gent's Son
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How fickle the fan   Message 45704Sat, 27 January 2018 21:59  Go to next message

Am I the only one who isn't ready to demonise Spencer? There are a lot of incredibly short memories out there. Yes, there are times when I question his tactics and managerial aptitude, but like the players who perform at this level, he is not the polished product. He has, however, saved us from reforming (yet again) and given fans more than the occasional reason for celebration. As a Boro fan, I've seen my share of shit and bust and would rather rebuild and climb within our means.


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Carl D is currently offline Carl D
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45705 is a reply to message 45704Sat, 27 January 2018 22:11  Go to previous messageGo to next message

100% agree. Fans want top quality football at bargain budgets, not going to happen. That being said there has to be better players about that are gettable and affordable in certain positions.
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45706 is a reply to message 45704Sat, 27 January 2018 22:28  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Stockholm syndrome
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The Governor is currently offline The Governor
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45707 is a reply to message 45706Sat, 27 January 2018 22:39  Go to previous messageGo to next message

There appears to be a lack of communication between management and the fans.
I cite the example of Spencer allowing Jamie Cureton to leave (and how we miss him !!!)
Reason...the club could not afford Jamies's travelling expenses which is fair enough.
The club has 9165 followers on twitter and I am sure that if asked,the vast majority would have chipped in £5.00 to help out with Jamie's expenses for the rest of the season.
I leave you to work out the maths yourselves.
End of sermon.

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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45713 is a reply to message 45704Sun, 28 January 2018 10:09  Go to previous messageGo to next message

City Gent's Son wrote on Sat, 27 January 2018 21:59
Am I the only one who isn't ready to demonise Spencer? There are a lot of incredibly short memories out there. Yes, there are times when I question his tactics and managerial aptitude, but like the players who perform at this level, he is not the polished product. He has, however, saved us from reforming (yet again) and given fans more than the occasional reason for celebration. As a Boro fan, I've seen my share of shit and bust and would rather rebuild and climb within our means.



Some of us have longer memories!!

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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45715 is a reply to message 45713Sun, 28 January 2018 11:34  Go to previous messageGo to next message

At times like this it may be wise to reflect on this quote from the greatest football manager in my lifetime(IMHO) so far,the late Bill Shankly of Liverpool.

"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."

I do hope Spencer takes note,if he reads these comments at all.


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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45716 is a reply to message 45715Sun, 28 January 2018 12:57  Go to previous messageGo to next message

No mention of 'Emperors of Football'?
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Peter Crouch's Publicist is currently offline Peter Crouch's Publicist
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45717 is a reply to message 45704Sun, 28 January 2018 13:23  Go to previous messageGo to next message

City Gent's Son wrote on Sat, 27 January 2018 21:59
Am I the only one who isn't ready to demonise Spencer? There are a lot of incredibly short memories out there. Yes, there are times when I question his tactics and managerial aptitude, but like the players who perform at this level, he is not the polished product. He has, however, saved us from reforming (yet again) and given fans more than the occasional reason for celebration. As a Boro fan, I've seen my share of shit and bust and would rather rebuild and climb within our means.



Off the field, him and his puppets have done well.

On the field, for every high (promotion from pub league) there have been enormous, ongoing lows that have driven fans away - like going over a year without an away win.

We are now at the stage where there are teams in this league with a fraction of our budget or none at all that are putting in displays with more guts and tactical nous than the sides Spencer puts out.

Imagine what a manager used to working on less than a shoestring would do with our (admittedly limited) resources - if we were coached by the Basingstoke guy or the Hartley Wintney guys we'd be pushing for the play-offs now.

But for that to happen our Chairman (men?) would have to be something other than one of our Emperor of Football's Catfish.

Remember when we went to Hereford and beat them? Almost all of those players have been ditched... Who's not good enough again?

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City Gent is currently offline City Gent
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45718 is a reply to message 45717Sun, 28 January 2018 15:33  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Agree with you PCP.
It is admirable that the owners keep within their budget and do not spend what they do not have. What is frustrating is the chopping and changing through each season of players by this manager.Maybe this is the new norm at most clubs, but supporters like to build a rapport with the team and players and this is difficult when new faces appear on a regular basis. I have nothing personal against Spencer but do think next season is crunch time for him and if there is no real improvement in results he should for the sake of the club swallow his pride and get someone else in to manage. His record in the cups and league (especially away) during his time is not impressive.We all want the best for the club.

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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45719 is a reply to message 45717Sun, 28 January 2018 19:13  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Peter Crouch's Publicist wrote on Sun, 28 January 2018 13:23


Off the field, him and his puppets have done well.



Wind your neck in PCP that is way out of line - there are a handful of volunteers who keep the club going on matchday and between who are all fans and are far from 'puppets' all will be around long after the current owners and keep the club functioning despite everything that goes-on pitch-side. Without them there is nothing. I suggest you put your sizeable gob on the line and volunteer instead of sniping from afar.

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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45721 is a reply to message 45719Mon, 29 January 2018 10:44  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Hawley Boot Boy wrote on Sun, 28 January 2018 19:13
Peter Crouch's Publicist wrote on Sun, 28 January 2018 13:23


Off the field, him and his puppets have done well.



Wind your neck in PCP that is way out of line - there are a handful of volunteers who keep the club going on matchday and between who are all fans and are far from 'puppets' all will be around long after the current owners and keep the club functioning despite everything that goes-on pitch-side. Without them there is nothing. I suggest you put your sizeable gob on the line and volunteer instead of sniping from afar.


Hi HBB,

Apologies you misinterpreted my remark - this was nothing to do with the volunteers and those who put so much time and energy into keeping the club going - they're what makes FFC great.

What I meant by that comment was my displeasure at how, following Spencer being banned from acting as an official owner / chairman, he has put in place people in those roles who do what he wants (i.e. won't sack him).

This is a problem and different from other clubs where owners and chairmen have the ability to change managers if the on-field product isn't good enough.

It's also what leads to fan dissatisfaction over him being manager for life, however results stack up.


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Bob Perry is currently offline Bob Perry
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Re: How fickle the fan   Message 45722 is a reply to message 45721Mon, 29 January 2018 16:33  Go to previous message

PCP wrote:
What I meant by that comment was my displeasure at how, following Spencer being banned from acting as an official owner / chairman, he has put in place people in those roles who do what he wants (i.e. won't sack him).

This is a problem and different from other clubs where owners and chairmen have the ability to change managers if the on-field product isn't good enough.

It's also what leads to fan dissatisfaction over him being manager for life, however results stack up.



Nail firmly on the head there Peter, and the very reason why there is very little that anyone can do anything about it.

We just have to sit and watch what goes on, in the hope? that something good turns up in the long run!!

It's probably another reason why fans are not supporting the Boost the Budget scheme, despite the very good efforts of FaST.
There just isn't enough 'trust' in the fact that any money raised towards players budget would be used properly, and the constant changing of personnel, for whatever excuse might be put up for it!!

As supporters we can only encourage those that put on the shirt and accept the efforts good or bad.

Inconsistent performances, and the 'nothing to play for' games this season also don't encourage bums on seats, which further turns the downward spiral financially.

The answer to the problem is obvious to all but, until something dramatic happens, nothing will change, so we just have to grin and bare it, until OUR Club comes back ONE DAY!! and that's not a pun!!!

Having said all that, without Spencer's intervention in the first place there may not have been a Club at all!!, so we should be aware or that, and thankful that the Club and stadium is still here and is not a further extension to Prospect Estate!!

The Club is continuing, although in a much lower standard than supporters would wish, but will still be here when the current encumbrants have moved on, and they will eventually!!!

Keep the faith

COME ON YOU YELLOWWSSAA!!







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