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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44913 is a reply to message 44912Fri, 01 December 2017 10:42  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Are gate net proceeds at all stages of FA Cup and FA Trophy shared equally between the two clubs and the FA?
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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44943 is a reply to message 44913Sun, 03 December 2017 19:20  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Just between Club's, plus you pay away teams expenses
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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44952 is a reply to message 44943Tue, 05 December 2017 18:08  Go to previous messageGo to next message

So, on a gate of 255 for the Hartley Wintney game , with an assumed average entry fee £11, we would have collected the grand sum of £2805.

Deduct the Match officials fees and expenses, costs of floodlights, programme printing, stewards, food and dink outlay etc, Boardroom entertaining of visitors, plus Hartley's expenses, ( which admittedly would not be too great), AND THEN splitting the gate money!! this match would involve a considerable loss to the Club!

Add in to this the back handed fine to the Club, over the Banbury fiasco ( no splitting of the gate receipts on the Saturday, but we DID have to split the first game!!)) our F.A Trophy journey has not been the greatest financial success has it?

Even if you have the luck to draw a home tie with one of the larger National League Clubs, or Hereford at our level, the Trophy games are hardly worth the effort!!




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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44953 is a reply to message 44952Tue, 05 December 2017 22:38  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Would we not have got about 5 grand had we won though?
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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44954 is a reply to message 44952Wed, 06 December 2017 07:45  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Bob Perry wrote on Tue, 05 December 2017 18:08


Even if you have the luck to draw a home tie with one of the larger National League Clubs, or Hereford at our level,the Trophy games are hardly worth the effort!!






Not necessarily. now we are out it can be seen our season is effectively over. the Trophy was the only bit of excitement left really. no chance of relegation (barring something very catastrophic) or promotion so a quality cup run would have definitely provided an incentive to come down and also a carrot to dangle in front of new players. would have made a positive buzz about the place.
suppose we do have the HSC to look forward to.

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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44955 is a reply to message 44954Wed, 06 December 2017 08:39  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Fingers McKenzie wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 07:45
Bob Perry wrote on Tue, 05 December 2017 18:08


Even if you have the luck to draw a home tie with one of the larger National League Clubs, or Hereford at our level,the Trophy games are hardly worth the effort!!






Not necessarily. now we are out it can be seen our season is effectively over. the Trophy was the only bit of excitement left really. no chance of relegation (barring something very catastrophic) or promotion so a quality cup run would have definitely provided an incentive to come down and also a carrot to dangle in front of new players. would have made a positive buzz about the place.
suppose we do have the HSC to look forward to.


There is a big opportunity here. After 20 or so games, management and owners now have a much better insight into what the Southern League Premier is all about - it's a very tough competition where even the lower to middling teams are well organised and capable.

We have to raise the bar and now have half a season to build a squad that is more than ready for the "new" Southern Premier next season, which, whatever happens, won't include the likes of Hereford, Kettering and King's Lynn. A clear statement of direction and evidence that it is being followed would do a lot to convince Boro' fans that we aren't just treading water. I reckon a lot of the fanbase would buy into that.



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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44956 is a reply to message 44955Wed, 06 December 2017 11:07  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Makes sense to me...
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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44957 is a reply to message 44955Wed, 06 December 2017 11:49  Go to previous messageGo to next message

I do not understand what these league changes will be.

Incidentally if there is a net loss from a cup game dont both clubs share it 50/50? I also thought that the FA had a third share at least in the FA Cup. Unless a home club enjoys an exceptionally large gate they likely to be out of pocket if the away team takes home half the gate money and refund of their travelling costs however they choose to travel.

I think we should reconsider our policy for travelling to major away cup games so that we take a coach and pick up some players en route.

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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44958 is a reply to message 44957Wed, 06 December 2017 12:03  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Golden wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 11:49
I do not understand what these league changes will be.


A fourth Step 3 Premier Division, covering the Midlands, will be in place next season, adding to the existing Southern, Isthmian and Northern Premier divisions.

The Midlands-based clubs in our division will switch to the new division and the Southern Premier will brought up to a full complement by only having one relegation spot and more promotion spots in the Step 4 regional divisions this season.

So it's unlikely that we will be playing league games against Hereford, Kettering, King's Lynn, Redditch, Banbury etc in the future, unless both we and our opponents get promoted to Conference National. A distant dream!

Someone on the Non-League Matters forum is maintaining a projection of the make up of the new Southern League Premier for season 2018/19, based on current league positions and geography. Here's his current projection:-

Basingstoke Town
Bideford
Bognor Regis Town
Corinthian-Casuals
Dorchester Town
Dorking Wanderers
Farnborough
Frome Town
Harrow Borough
Hendon
Hereford
Kingstonian
Leatherhead
Merthyr Town
Metropolitan Police
Moneyfields
Poole Town
Staines Town
Swindon Supermarine
Taunton Town
Tiverton Town
Weymouth

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Re: Farnborough 1 2 Hartley Wintney   Message 44959 is a reply to message 44958Wed, 06 December 2017 17:41  Go to previous message

I think they have forgotten Whitehawk, currently bottom of National South, and included Hereford!, so include the Hawks and delete Hereford, who could probably get promoted anyway, and it looks about right.
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