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Golden is currently offline Golden
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Ambition   Message 46815Tue, 12 June 2018 21:58  Go to next message

There seems to me that there are three basic types of positive ambition for us next season.

1 Target outright promotion if achieving this is affordable on the basis of a settled squad and results based football often grinding out wins.

2 In the first half of the season aim for mid table with a variety of squad members. In the second half of the season develop a more settled side aiming to finish in a play off place.

3 Concentrate on keeping a settled affordable squad that will prioritise entertaining football and comfortably stay clear of the relegation places and work towards finishing in mid table with a view to achieving ongoing continuous improvement.

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Bob Perry is currently offline Bob Perry
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Re: Ambition   Message 46816 is a reply to message 46815Tue, 12 June 2018 22:58  Go to previous messageGo to next message

1.Targeting outright promotion is a fine ideal, but it has caveats!!
i. Money, which we are constantly being told we don't have!!.
ii. Signing a 'senior' settled squad of players with the ability to achieve, for Management and coaches to work with to obtain promotion, without the slash and burn policy of recent years!!

2. This is very similar to what appears to be happening already.
i.e. Find some cash to get half decent players early doors, to achieve enough points to avoid relegation, and then drift with trialists/loanees to see the season out.
Hardly attractive for supporters, but reality!!

3. Concentrate on assembling a settled affordable squad,
( without the apparent revolving door policy) that can be successfully 'coached' and is able to compete, and survive, whilst improving throughout the season for the future.
Utopian idealism???




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Re: Ambition   Message 46817 is a reply to message 46815Tue, 12 June 2018 23:05  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Compete for a play-off spot, but this depends on the budgets of other teams being thrown around as to whether it is a realistic goal - last year there was no way we would compete with the likes of Hereford, Slough, Kettering etc. with their deep coffers - there were 4 teams who tried to buy their way out of the division, only 2 succeeded so it remains to see if there will still be the funding in place for those who failed or if it is going to be a more level playing-field on the budget front this year.

We already know there will be 3/4 well funded teams who will fill the playoff spots barring disaster, can we make a grab for one of the couple of remaining spots and see what happens?

That said if you have lions lead by donkeys it doesn't matter what your budget is.

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Re: Ambition   Message 46818 is a reply to message 46816Wed, 13 June 2018 07:33  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Bob Perry wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 22:58
1.Targeting outright promotion is a fine ideal, but it has caveats!!
i. Money, which we are constantly being told we don't have!!.
ii. Signing a 'senior' settled squad of players with the ability to achieve, for Management and coaches to work with to obtain promotion, without the slash and burn policy of recent years!!

2. This is very similar to what appears to be happening already.
i.e. Find some cash to get half decent players early doors, to achieve enough points to avoid relegation, and then drift with trialists/loanees to see the season out.
Hardly attractive for supporters, but reality!!

3. Concentrate on assembling a settled affordable squad,
( without the apparent revolving door policy) that can be successfully 'coached' and is able to compete, and survive, whilst improving throughout the season for the future.
Utopian idealism???


Sadly Bob I don't think the current management team is capable of achieving the third option (coaching to improve). I think the second option is most likely.

For me the test will be what squad we have by the start of the season, and how many of them are still there two months later.

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Bob Perry is currently offline Bob Perry
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Re: Ambition   Message 46819 is a reply to message 46818Wed, 13 June 2018 10:37  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Yes, option 3 was very much tongue in cheek as, I suggested in the last line, it is a utopian dream, which I fear is unachievable with the current regime.!!

Option 2 is very likely the way it will go, sadly!!


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Re: Ambition   Message 46820 is a reply to message 46819Wed, 13 June 2018 11:00  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Sadly, we don't appear to have any ambition at all under the current regime.

That's one of the main reasons why hardly anyone can be arsed to go and watch nowadays.

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Re: Ambition   Message 46821 is a reply to message 46820Thu, 14 June 2018 17:43  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Nail on head hit Gav! I don't see any ambition to build a club that we can all be part of.
I no longer feel connected to the club or any of the players.
Only went to one game last year and not sure if I will go to many/any next season.
At every other club Spencer would have been sacked about six times over during his spell.

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Re: Ambition   Message 46822 is a reply to message 46821Fri, 15 June 2018 15:54  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Have same thoughts / feelings. Why Spencer thinks he should remain as manager after the utterly awful last four seasons is beyond me. I cannot see next season being any different. As said at any other club he would have been fired by now. Sad to see the club fading away.
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Re: Ambition   Message 46823 is a reply to message 46822Sat, 16 June 2018 13:26  Go to previous messageGo to next message

Reach the first round proper of the FA Cup.
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Re: Ambition   Message 46824 is a reply to message 46822Sat, 16 June 2018 13:37  Go to previous messageGo to next message

City Gent wrote on Fri, 15 June 2018 15:54
Have same thoughts / feelings. Why Spencer thinks he should remain as manager after the utterly awful last four seasons is beyond me. I cannot see next season being any different. As said at any other club he would have been fired by now. Sad to see the club fading away.


Yep, my only ambition for this season is for Spencer to realise the club isn't bigger than one man's ego, and that, maybe, after his intense recent record of failure, he isn't so cut out for this football management lark after all.

Sadly, I think such self-awareness is about as likely as Westley refusing whatever managerial job he's offered next, or Donald Trump learning humility.

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Bob Perry is currently offline Bob Perry
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Re: Ambition   Message 46825 is a reply to message 46824Sat, 16 June 2018 18:11  Go to previous message

Yep, my only ambition for this season is for Spencer to realise the club isn't bigger than one man's ego, and that, maybe, after his intense recent record of failure, he isn't so cut out for this football management lark after all.

I've just seen a huge flock of flying pigs go by!!!


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